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Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Creator 17M A10Sd Core I7 10750H Gtx 1660Ti 32Gb 2256Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Creator 17M A10Sd Core I7 10750H Gtx 1660Ti 32Gb 2256Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 23.1 * 260 * 397 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 2.2 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography 10th Gen Core i7 processors / 6 cores / 12 threads / 14nm lithography
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor -
Dedicated Graphics Memory 6GB GDDR6 192-bit
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb) 2256GB (2TB HDD and 256GB SSD)
Storage Type Hybrid (HDD and SSD)
Display Size 15.6 inch 17.3 inch
Panel Technology
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 FHD - 1920×1080
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) 144 hertz (hz)
Display Panel Coating Type Matte Matte
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true false
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details 1x USB Type-C port
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity 4-cell battery with 51 Wh capacity
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true false
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Internal stereo speakers
Battery life (hours) - 1 to 3 hours
Operating System Type -

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Gtx70 3Cc Quad Core 16Gb 1Tb 2Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Gtx70 3Cc Quad Core 16Gb 1Tb 2Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 55 * 288 * 428 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 3.9 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation -
Processor Operating Frequency 2.50GHz to 3.50GHz
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography -
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor -
Dedicated Graphics Memory
RAM Capacity
RAM Type -
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb) 1TB
Storage Type Hard Disk
Display Size 15.6 inch 17.3 inch
Panel Technology -
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 FHD - 1920×1080
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) -
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true true
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true false
VGA Port false true
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true false
USB Type C Port Details -
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true false
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity Lithium-ion battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false true
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true true
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Internal stereo speakers
Internal Memory Details -
Battery life (hours) - 4:30 hour (h)
Operating System Type - DOS / No OS

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Microsoft Surface Laptop Core I5 8Gb 128Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Microsoft Surface Laptop Core I5 8Gb 128Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 14.48 * 223.27 * 308.1 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 1.25 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation -
Processor Operating Frequency 2.50GHz to 3.10GHz
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography -
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs -
Integrated Graphics with Processor
Dedicated Graphics Memory -
RAM Capacity
RAM Type -
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 13.5 inch
Panel Technology -
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 2256×1504
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) -
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false true
Ethernet Port true false
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true false
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true false
USB Type C Port Details -
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity -
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false false
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Omnisonic speakers with Dolby® Audio™ Premium technology
Internal Memory Details -
Battery life (hours) - 14:30 hour (h)
Operating System Type - Microsoft Windows 10 S

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Ge66 Raider 10Sfs Core I7 10750H Rtx 2070 16Gb 512Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Ge66 Raider 10Sfs Core I7 10750H Rtx 2070 16Gb 512Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 23.4 * 267 * 358 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 2.38 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation -
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography -
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor -
Dedicated Graphics Memory 8GB GDDR6 type
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 15.6 inch
Panel Technology
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 FHD - 1920×1080
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) 240 hertz (hz)
Display Panel Coating Type Matte Matte
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true true
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details 2x USB Type-C ports
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity 99.9Wh 4-Cell Lithium-ion Battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Yes, internal stereo speakers
Internal Memory Details - NVMe SSD
Other Display Features - Wide viewing angle / MSI Matrix Display for multi-monitor display / True Color technology for accurate color display / 3ms response time / Narrow bezels
Battery life (hours) - 3 hour (h)
Operating System Type - Windows 10 Home

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Gs70 Stealth Core I7 16Gb 1Tb 3Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Gs70 Stealth Core I7 16Gb 1Tb 3Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 21.8 * 287 * 418 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 2.66 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation -
Processor Operating Frequency 2.6GHz to 3.6GHz
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography -
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor -
Dedicated Graphics Memory
RAM Capacity
RAM Type -
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb) 1TB
Storage Type Hybrid Storage
Display Size 15.6 inch 17.3 inch
Panel Technology -
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 FHD - 1920×1080
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) -
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true true
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true false
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true false
USB Type C Port Details -
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true false
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity Lithium-ion battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers
Internal Memory Details - 1TB hard disk with 128GB SSD
Battery life (hours) - 5:00 hour (h)
Operating System Type - Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-bit

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Ge66 Raider 10Sfs Core I7 10750H Rtx 2070S 32Gb 1Tb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Ge66 Raider 10Sfs Core I7 10750H Rtx 2070S 32Gb 1Tb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 23.4 * 267 * 358 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 2.38 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation -
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography -
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor -
Dedicated Graphics Memory 8GB GDDR6 type
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb) 1 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 15.6 inch
Panel Technology
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 FHD - 1920×1080
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) 240 hertz (hz)
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true true
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details 2x USB Type-C ports
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity 99.9Wh 4-Cell Lithium-ion Battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Yes, internal stereo speakers
Internal Memory Details - NVMe SSD
Other Display Features - Wide viewing angle / MSI Matrix Display for multi-monitor display / True Color technology for accurate color display / 3ms response time / Narrow bezels
Battery life (hours) - 3 hour (h)
Operating System Type - Windows 10 Home

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio 2 Core I7 13700H Rtx 4050 64Gb 2Tb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio 2 Core I7 13700H Rtx 4050 64Gb 2Tb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 323.08 x 230.12 x 21.84 mm
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 1.98 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography 13th Gen Core i7 processors / 14 cores / 20 threads / 10nm lithography / 3rd Gen Movidius 3700VC VPU AI accelerator
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor
Dedicated Graphics Memory 6GB GDDR6 type
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb) 2 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 14.4 inch
Panel Technology
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 2400×1600
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) 120 hertz (hz)
Display Panel Coating Type Matte
Touchscreen Capability false true
Ethernet Port true false
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details
Thunderbolt Support true true
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity 58Wh Battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details FHD-1080p / Windows Hello support
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Internal speakers made by Omnisonic with Dolby Atmos support
GPU Details -
Internal Memory Details -
Other Display Features - PixelSense Flow Display / 3:2 aspect ratio / 1500:1 contrast ratio / DisplayHDR 400 certification / Dolby Vision IQ support
Wireless Communication Details -
Additional Ports - 1 Surface Connect port

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Gf63 Thin 11Sc Core I5 11400H Gtx 1650 8Gb 256Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Gf63 Thin 11Sc Core I5 11400H Gtx 1650 8Gb 256Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 21.7 * 254 * 359 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 1.86 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography 11th Gen Core i5 processors / 6 cores / 12 threads / 10nm lithography
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor
Dedicated Graphics Memory 4GB GDDR6 type
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 15.6 inch
Panel Technology
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 FHD - 1920×1080
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) -
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true true
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details -
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity 52.4Wh 3-Cell Battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true false
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Internal stereo speakers

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Microsoft Surface Book 3 Core I7 1065G7 Gtx 1650 Max Q 16Gb 256Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Microsoft Surface Book 3 Core I7 1065G7 Gtx 1650 Max Q 16Gb 256Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 13 * 232.1 * 312.4 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 1.5 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography 10th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor
Dedicated Graphics Memory 4GB GDDR6 type
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 13.5 inch
Panel Technology
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 3K - 3000×2000
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) -
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false true
Ethernet Port true false
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true false
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details -
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity -
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Internal stereo speakers with Dolby Atmos support
Battery life (hours) - 15.5 hour (h)

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Ge66 Raider 10Sfs Core I7 10875H Rtx 2070S 16Gb 1Tb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Ge66 Raider 10Sfs Core I7 10875H Rtx 2070S 16Gb 1Tb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 23.4 * 267 * 358 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 2.38 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation -
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography -
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor -
Dedicated Graphics Memory 8GB GDDR6 type
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 15.6 inch
Panel Technology
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 FHD - 1920×1080
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) 300 hertz (hz)
Display Panel Coating Type Matte Matte
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true true
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details 2x USB Type-C ports
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true true
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity 99.9Wh 4-Cell Lithium-ion Battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Yes, internal stereo speakers
Internal Memory Details - NVMe SSD
Other Display Features - Wide viewing angle / MSI Matrix Display for multi-monitor display / True Color technology for accurate color display / 3ms response time / Narrow bezels
Battery life (hours) - 3 hour (h)
Operating System Type - Windows 10 Home

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U Vega 9 8Gb 256Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 15 Ryzen 5 3580U Vega 9 8Gb 256Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 14.69 * 244 * 339.5 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 1.54 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation
Processor Operating Frequency
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography Ryzen 3000 APU series / 4 cores / 8 threads / 14nm lithography
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs -
Integrated Graphics with Processor
Dedicated Graphics Memory -
RAM Capacity
RAM Type
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb)
Storage Type
Display Size 15.6 inch 15 inch
Panel Technology -
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 2496×1664
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) -
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false true
Ethernet Port true false
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true true
VGA Port false false
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true true
USB Type C Port Details -
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true -
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity -
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false false
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false true
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Omnisonic speakers with Dolby Audio Premium technology
Other Display Features - PixelSense support / 3:2 aspect ratio / Surface Pen support
Wireless Communication Details -
Additional Ports - 1 Surface Connect port
Battery life (hours) - 11.5 hour (h)

Compare Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSDwith Msi Ge40 2Pc Dragon Eyes Core I7 16Gb 1Tb 2Gb

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Lenovo ThinkBook 15 G2 Core i7-1165G7 MX450 16GB 1TB SSD

Msi Ge40 2Pc Dragon Eyes Core I7 16Gb 1Tb 2Gb

Size and Dimensions 18.9 * 235 * 357 millimeter (mm) 29.2~22.3 * 239.4 * 339 millimeter (mm)
Product Weight 1.7 kilogram (kg) 2.0 kilogram (kg)
CPU
CPU Generation -
Processor Operating Frequency 2.40GHz to 3.40GHz
Cache Memory Size
Processor Details 11th Gen Core i7 processors / 4 cores / 8 threads / 10nm lithography -
Dedicated Graphics Processor Specs
Integrated Graphics with Processor -
Dedicated Graphics Memory
RAM Capacity
RAM Type -
Storage Capacity 1 terabyte (tb) 1TB
Storage Type Hard Disk
Display Size 15.6 inch 14 inch
Panel Technology -
Display Resolution FHD - 1920×1080 HD+ - 1600×900
Refresh Rate 60 hertz (hz) -
Display Panel Coating Type Matte -
Touchscreen Capability false false
Ethernet Port true true
Wireless Network Capability true true
Bluetooth Support true false
VGA Port false true
HDMI true true
DVI Port false false
USB Type C port true false
USB Type C Port Details -
Thunderbolt Support true false
Presence of headphone/microphone jack true false
Battery size and capacity 3-cell battery with 45 Wh capacity Lithium-ion battery
Charger Type -
Optical Drive false true
Webcam true true
Webcam Details -
Backlit Keyboard false false
Fingerprint Sensor true false
Card Reader true true
Speaker Type 2 x 2W speakers Internal stereo speakers
Internal Memory Details -
Battery life (hours) - 4:30 hour (h)
Operating System Type - DOS / No OS